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Dear Vijay Is there any site for Free software Testing Certification or to Check Your standerd where do you fall on testing like WWW.Brainbench.com Here are some test Paid n some are free Suggest me this type of site for software Testing.
Kumar
You can have some more guide on certification on
softwarecertifications.org
Can I have a detailed Test strategy document
Can you furnish a detailed Test Strategy document
hai
iam chandi
i need some detailed documentation on
BROWSER AUTOMATION TOOLS
and where any referal site
I would like to apper for ISTQB exam. Can you please suggest me the guide for the reference.
hai,
i am madhuri.
i would like to knw abt the backend process when a file is uploaded and also the test cases……….
hai
chandi here
can any tell about tokenizer in java script
in recent interview they asked me about to write test cases for that tokenizer method
can any one send me answers immediately
ok bye
Vijay.,
The way you have provided the information on Mercury tools especially Winrunner is appreciatable..the same way is there any scope to educate us on Rational tools like Rational Robot or Rational Functional Tester??
I m in Oil and Gas domain, and testing the application is quite diffrent from other kind of application,
Its a Client Server application, can anyone tell me how to break security, how to cover major crashes.
Also what should be followed to test the application wih its domain functionality except the given documents.
Can u tell me some certifications which are cheap
hi,
i m Shailesh
I am Diploma in Mech. and have been working with Manf/Prod area from last 5 yrs
Now I want to swith over to S/W testing career
Pl guide me if is it possible to me to enter in IT field?..and from where I should start?
Can I have a detailed Test strategy document
i work as testing professional at php platform for a month ,please tellyour suggestion whether may i continue in this field or not.
i want to know difference between load,stress and performance test with example. and i have the requirement like • System must support the dissemination of information at all levels with a database size of 40kb per average email but 200kb per occasional email with attachments Bandwidth needs to support 1,000 users per hour, staying on average for 10 minutes how to do load and performance test
i want to do brief differance between QA & Qc in general testing and also in brief for web application??
Waht about Business requirements? and What is the difference between Business requirements and general requirements?
Please give some information about Equivalence partitioning and Boundary value analysis?
Dear Vijay,
Gone through your website, absolutely interesting can you clarify our doubts regarding QTP 8.2, WinRunner 8.0 as far as your experience is concerned, so that new emerging testers like me can get along with the updates and overcome automation blues?
kindly give explanation about , what are the models in software development life cycle.
what is the difference between defect and bug?
what is the ETVX for integration test plan and system test plan. could you explain me elaborately?
whats the meaning of the term “bug fixing” and also the term “fix”?
hi ,
This website is very use ful to all. please give an important interview questions based questions as well as answers in short form please do th afavour.
Thanking u
what are the models in SDLC process. kindly explain this elaborately.
pls any one can post QTP related documents
hi…
am bala serching for a job in testing bbt…i need a proper explanation of v model…pls anybody give a answer for that…proper mnc methods…pls answer me soon…
Hi Vijay,
Thanks for ur posts.I would like to ask u that if u post on quality assurance side like review,inspections,audit definitions practically and about cmm,cmmi,pcmm,six sigma…it will be given added advantage for all testers.
Regards,
swetha.
hi swetha,
could u explain me bug life cycle and STLC
thanks®ards,
dhananjayan
Hi
Actually this site is very useful.It has got a lots of information regrading testing.
Actually I came to know this site through google.
So Can any one guide me in learning testing,With what concepts should I start?
From starting to ending what are the concepts involved
i.e I need the syllabus of this testing?
hi madhavi this is my id
send me ur id i vl send u the meterial madhavi..
bala.
what does SRS(SOFTWARE REQUIREMENT SPECIFICATION) CONTAINS?
EXPLAIN ME DETILS OF SRS.
Requirement Specifications:
This specifies the objectives of the system/product, what is to be accomplished, how it fits into the need of the business and finally, how it is used on a day-to-day basis. This is not simple.
User Requirements
User requirements typically describe the needs, goals, and tasks of the user. It says “typically” here because, often these user requirements don’t reflect the actual person who will be using the software; projects are often tailored to the needs of the project requestor, and not the end-user of the software. It is strongly recommend that any user requirements document define and describe the end-user, and that any measurements of quality or success be taken with respect to that end-user.
User requirements are usually defined after the completion of task analysis, the examination of the tasks and goals of the end-user.
One of the most reliable methods of insuring problems, or failure, in a complex software project is to have poorly documented requirements specifications. Requirements are the details describing an application’s externally-perceived functionality and properties. Requirements should be clear, complete, reasonably detailed, cohesive, attainable, and testable. A non-testable requirement would be, for example, ‘user-friendly’ (too subjective). A testable requirement would be something like ‘the user must enter their previously-assigned password to access the application’. Determining and organizing requirements details in a useful and efficient way can be a difficult effort; different methods are available depending on the particular project. Many books are available that describe various approaches to this task.
Care should be taken to involve ALL of a project’s significant ‘customers’ in the requirements process. ‘Customers’ could be in-house personnel or out, and could include end-users, customer acceptance testers, customer contract officers, customer management, future software maintenance engineers, salespeople, etc. Anyone who could later derail the project if their expectations aren’t met should be included if possible.
Organizations vary considerably in their handling of requirements specifications. Ideally, the requirements are spelled out in a document with statements such as ‘The product shall…..’. ‘Design’ specifications should not be confused with ‘requirements’; design specifications should be traceable back to the requirements.
In some organizations requirements may end up in high level project plans, functional specification documents, in design documents, or in other documents at various levels of detail. No matter what they are called, some type of documentation with detailed requirements will be needed by testers in order to properly plan and execute tests. Without such documentation, there will be no clear-cut way to determine if a software application is performing correctly.
Regards
K Govindraj
what is automation framework? how it is carried out?types of framework
what is functional testing? what r types of functional testing?how it is carried out?
what is test scenario?
how to write the test cases give some examples
Please suggest any professional in personal who teaches QTP/ or any institute with good professionalism prefer mumbai.
hi,
i am santosh
what is mean by Red Box Testing ?
red box testing isnothing but protocol testing is called red box testing santhosh.
bala.
Hi,
Please let me know is there any Institute in PUNE,Which is conducting OPEN STA training….. OR any other source where I can Learn OPEN STA,SILK TEST….
-
Sameer
hi
plz send real time model manual test case
send to my id
example test case model
i wnt to get into testing so how much knowledge of programming is needed coz i m not so good in makin prgs.i know basic c ,c ++.but i cant write any prgs on my own, can i get into testing.pls help
This is Naresh, my past experience was related to “Test Engineer”.
Recently i was appointed as TL to a product based company.
Currently there is no Pre-established testing process over here.
As a TL am meant to Define a standard process for the entire testing
flow.And i am meant to maintain certain documents for each product.
Can u help me out in establishing a process for testing,
and make me know the entire responsilbilites of TL and wat
documents am supposed to prepare and maintain
Naresh,
I would start by understanding current processes. If there are none - have group meetings - get buy off on your ideas or modify them as needed. Start with simply processes and add on to them as the process matures.
Thanks,
Charles
Hi
I need the guide as well as the sample papers for ISTQB certification, PLS any body have forward to my mail
Thanks
hi frens..
now we r introducing automation tool in our company… for me QTP is assignd… our major work in database testing.. hw i have to test that in QTP.. ex.,subscription testing for diff authentication in journal industry….
hai,
i am shalini. this is the first time i am interacting with u. but i am a fan of this website. i am a fresher with 0 years of experience.
my doubt is i saw ‘TCA & TTA’ in QA Test Plan. what are they mean.
thank you in advance.
thanks & regards,
shalini
Good morning Vijay
Some how i came across your site, and i started recommending this site to all my friends who are into testing. Very useful. Keep doing. Can you send me view links where i can certain information about testing in interview point of view apart from basics in testing. Want to prepare for my interview, waiting for your asap
Hi vijay..
Thanx for providing good knowledge abt testing…. now for my upcoming project i have to prepare Test cases.. i am not understanding how to start at all.. plz help me.. if u have any model cases plz give me the links 4 that..
What is Bug, what is error? And What is difference between bug and error?
hi
please send me detailed notes on SDLC and STLC in Testing Tools.
Hii Veena
Will send you an article which has different phases of SDLC and STLC, so that you make out the difference between both. Tell me if thats not enough.
What are SDLC and STLC ? Explain its different phases.
SDLC
* Requirement phase
* Designing phase (HLD, DLD (Program spec))
* Coding
* Testing
* Release
* Maintenance
STLC
* System Study
* Test planning
* Writing Test case or scripts
* Review the test case
* Executing test case
* Bug tracking
* Report the defect
Hi Manoj
Here is the answer for your question
Error: The difference between expected result and actual result is error
Bug: If that error comes at the tome of development stage before production then it is bug.
Defect: If that error comes after production then we say it is defect.
what are the latest versions of qtp,td,winrunner
really the excellent notes ,thank you
interview question for qtp
Hii venkat
I believe,
Latest version of QTP is Beta 9.0
Latest version of TD is 8.2
Latest version of Winrunner is 7.0
hi anybody tell
in interviews they are asking what is the difficult bug u have faced in your project my project is erp application what to tell in my interview. it is urgent.
hi this is a very educational site as far as testing is concerned .
i would like to thank the owner to come up with such a beautiful and helpful concept .
this site is gives a broad view of what is industry level for software testing .
it is extremely helpful for people who have just finished their courses from any st institiutes
hi!
Vijay
It is find very difficult for me to search job in software testing as a fresher. Also my previous job experience is in online marketing job with E-commerce company. I have completed my PG Mcom & have done software testing course with Seed infotech in december 2007. But still searching for jobs. Applied every where in consultancies also . But for fresher there is no scope.
Please guide me on the same
Hi Manoj,
Bug: is a deviation from the defect. (ie; which is fail to get an actual result)
Error: which stops the further process in an application…
if am wrong let me know pls….
I need help on avionics testing. Can you upload some articals or anyone who is working on avionics testing share there knowledge.
i feel very happy by seeing this website. I request you, which book is suitable for software testing to become a tester as a fresher.
So, please suggest me.
THANKS to THIS TEAm.
Hi
I wanted to know more on content testing in webbased applns and also testing MAC OS as well as SAFARI browser.Can someone please help.
hello
i want to know more information on utest ie testing done at home
does that really exist
plz do give valuable information
Hi,
I want a major help in financial domain, as I am working on project for US Stock exchances.I wanted to become Financial domain expert.Kindly guide me the right direction and steps ,as how to start working in Financial domain.I am not from Financial background also,look forward to see your reply.Your site is really helpful …..thanks
Hi
I’m a non IT person, and want to make a career shift. I’m interested in Software Testing. Can anyone help/guide me as to how should I go about it?
Hi ,
IS PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE KNOWLEDGE NECESSARY FOR A TESTER????
Plz reply vijay!!!!
How do you go about testing encryption off an ASP. Is there a setting somewhere to enable encrption if the ASP is encrypted? Can you also tell me the major diff between testing ASP and ASP.NET?
Thanks, great website!!!
Hi Laxmi,
Job of tester is to see that How application Perfroms
Correctly as per requriments.But instead of Black box testing the work of tester is not completes so he able to
perform white box testing .He must awar internal logic and coading in the situation of deployement of product
whenever bug occurs in absent of responsible programmer.
Hello friends,
I am new to this website and also for testing domain…
Iam working in Testing environment for past 8 months…My project is based on “Black box testing”..I want to gain more knowledge about software testing concept and it’s certification’s….please can anyone help me clearly about the above…waiting for ur quick reply…
Hai everybody,
I am working in testing domain in chennai..I have 1 year experience in manual testing..I would like to gain knowledge on automation testing tools…so please anyone of U suggest me about the institutes which are conducting courses on weekends… asap..thank ’s for the website..
hello
can anyone give more information on manual testing how actually it is done in a company basicaly testing web applications
i will be more thankful
Hello,
Kiran if u wanted to do Certification in software Testing( Manual) Then I.S.T.Q.B(International Software Testing Qualifications Board) is best option for U. For clearing this certification u must have deep knowledge of Manual Testing. for more detail about this certification u can visit www.istqb.org.in. If u got any difficulty u can contact to me as I am ISTQB Certified Tester (Foundation Level). My mail id is sriram.karu@gmail.com and my personel no. is 9312157223.
Hi Siram
www.istqb.org.in does not exists
Rather www.istqb.org is the correct URL
Hi,
I want a major help in financial domain, as I am working on project for US Stock exchances.I wanted to become Financial domain expert.Kindly guide me the right direction and steps ,as how to start working in Financial domain.I am not from Financial background also,look forward to see your reply.Your site is really helpful …..thanks
Hi,
This is the best one Website for testing related Material.
This is amazing that , you will find all the stuff related to testing with example which a layman can understand clearly.
Thanx
Hi,
Can anyone explain testing in c++?
Would like to know more details on sandbox testing ?
Hi,
Can anybody please tell me how to crash the PHP and .NET application…..?
Hi,
I have one doubt.
Which kind of testcases we cannot automate?
Waiting for your reply…..
Regards
Ramakrishna
i am 2005 b.e passout ,now i am competed maual testing .so pls send me manul tester freshers job & can i gate job witout considering my passout year
pls send mail
hey what is the exact difference between regression testing and retesting not in detail. Dont want the answer as both are same or the definition of both.
Hi George
Re testing: Is something to check whether the already found issues are fixed or not
Regression testing: Is something to check whether the already found issues are fixed or not, and more than that have to check whether the fixed issues produces any other issues and also to check the already working parts in the application is functioning properly or not
Have i made you clear?
Already found issues can be tested in the next build with that fix only, is it not?. So with a new build why you want to do retesting just do testing, right? But regression testing can be done on the next build because we are testing the fixes made any changes to the associated functionalities.
Please do comment with strong arguments…
hey what this testers can do in software development. They are just multiplying the work by finding some concerns of their own and that is not needed for the client. No need of testers in software development its just an added resource, a clever client wont bill for them.
@ George
Retesting is done to ensure that the bugs detected are fixed properly
and it is no longer there, whereas Regression testing is to ensure
that while fixing the bugs , the same does not cause any side effects
i.e fixing of bugs does not create new bugs in already tested areas.
@ asha
Testers add value to a software product. Every client requires a bug
free software a software which works without any hassles .Without
testers one cannot ensure that.
Regards
K Govindraj
@ K Govindraj,
“Retesting is done to ensure that the bugs detected are fixed properly and it is no longer there” What you mentioned is bug closing. But retesting is re-executing the test cases in same build to ensure that what we found is acceptable and the cause, say for example rewind the song to anderstand a particular word or something.
hi govind
When this testers came in to picture, only after 2000. Earlier how we shipped projects\products to client, by developer tested only. so dont argue like this “Without
testers one cannot ensure that”.
@ Lakshmi
not at all its require 4 dev not 4 tester..so decide wt u want…
Apropos to comment 91, earlier the job of testing was done by developers who were not doing the job correctly as one should know that the job of testing is a destructive process which a developer cannot do as he cannot be a creator as well as destroyer. Hence Testers were born and now it is done by specialised persons who are skilled with a mind set to find only faults in a program. For your info, plz note that specialised testers are there since 1980 and not 2000
Regarding comment 90, the comments are wrong. Plz note that bug closing is done when the bug detected initially is fixed without any side effects which will involve both retesting and regression testing. Plz check on comment 86 also which I concurr
George
Retesting will not be done in the same build, it will be done in a new build.
hi Govindraj & Jaishri
As far as i’m concerned Mr. George is right and i saw his various comments on different topics seem to have vast years of experience in testing
Thanks,
Vijay
@govindraj
Please see the comment of nani under regression testing section and see the apreciation from vijay too. Then self evaluate your knowledge in testing. Poor man poor…
Hi,
Is there any certification for automation testing?
(tools I mean to ask)
Please do reply.
Thanks
hai,
i am kavitha. i would like to know about the actual functional role of a software quality associative. Also how to become a skilled person by being in this role.
Thanks
Also please let me know is there is any certifications that could be done with a minimal experience of below six months as an SQA
Thanks
hai
to settle as software testing engineer, any morecourses are required to learn as compulsary other than Testing Tools course.
some are adviceing to learn “c “language & some are adviceing .net &some are adviceing sql server commands.
iam in great confusion.
please, kindly suggest me which courses are compulsary.
thank you
hello every one plz help me to know what are the syntax and their uses which we use in QTP
plz me the answer at my e-mail id (loneimran@yahoo.com)
I done my Bsc in computer science last year.Now i want to do any course related to the programming language . I am confused which course shd i do SAP or software testing or .net?
Plz help me .
@Deepti Sapkal
this is wht u need to take ur personal call ..one wat i could do i would assist u but finally decision will be yours..sAP or TESTINg is not a bad cofee..u could sip..
for more info ping me back rahulkumarbangalore@yahoo.co.in
Krishnaveni,
U need not confuse, u learn one programming language and one data base which u like along with testing, if u want to settle in testing.
bye bye
@all
Red Box testing
Yellow Box testing &
Green Box testing, there is no terminology like this in testing industry, some can say it is protocol testing-redbox, or error message testing-red box, warning message testing-yellow box and green box- environmental testing, of cource white, black, grey box testing is there. Or else why it is called by red, green, yellow box testing, anyway it is not due to the icon\symbol with the warning or error messages. please do comment by experts only…
george
Hi
Can QTP Identifies the third party control Far Point Spread control(.Ocx). if yes in which mode of recording it identifies. i need sample script regarding these. Please help me
Regards
ArunRaja.C.R.
Hi All,
If any of u is working on Unit test then Pls help me out , act. i need to develop a test case on unit testing, I have the SRS as only thing with so Pls tell me how to procced.
Hopeing for early reply!
Thanks
Vishal
call: 09830704327
mail: bishalchaperia@gmail.com
I read all the comments from this page.It is really quite helpful for all growing tester. I need details about crm where it falls,how the domain abt?
hai
which institute is best in hyderabad for software testing.
which instittute is best in Hyderabad to learn testing tools course.
please sugest me.And also please suggest me which courses are required to learn along with testing tools course. im not from computers back ground.i dont know even one course in computers. i completed my postgraduation in science group.but im very much interested to learn testing tools course.
please sugest me
thank you
Hi Vijay,
Articles in this site are very useful for freshers as well as for experienced Testers.I like the way these articles are written.These articles are easy to understand.Thanks for that.I would like to ask your expertise opinion about BPO/Call center domain.Is it appropriate domain to mention in resume for a tester.And also if u can focus some more light on BFSI domain in little depth,it will be more helpful for all of us.
Thank you.
reagrds
shaliesh
I require study material for Advanced ISTQB - functional tester as well as technical tester
– yogeshbhadane83@gmail.com
One thing I would like to share is, I had suggested a new activity and also lead that in my organisation.
I am certified test engineer with 2 yrs exp(manual).
I suggested to take a daily QA meeting where all dev/qa/ba/support team members were invloved in the meeting.
The purpose was to discuss daily issues and new suggestions or any new work around done by any member to improvise the work culture.
for eg. I placed a problem that it is difficult to maintain the bugsheet, testcase and SRS on personal pc’s and then ask the respective owner who worked on that task to email when required.
The solution was lets keep a common shared drive where things will be kept folder wise say testcase, bugsheet,srs,production issues mail diff folders and all members can have access.
By such meeting we could increase the communication gap between the team members and share better knowledge as everyone was expert in his/her work.
You Readers can try this or rather must be practicing this even now, If u can suggest better practice let me know.
@Yogesh
Poor! why dont you use VSS or TFS for common file repository.
Hi
What is Bluepher testing
HI
Can anyone tell answer for “Bluepher testing”, if know the answer pls reply to “prvelvinoth@gmail.com”
hI let me know the advantages of process oriented and process less of a company
cheers,
Ramesh
Hi,
pls let me know the activity of the process oriented comany
my self arpan.i have done mca .my mca is through Distance education( punjab technical university).my programming skills are weak.i have knowledge in ms office and i am also trying to improve my knowledge in c++,sql server,html.now u tell me which centre can provide me good knowledge in software testing and which skills are essential for software tasting.
Hi Swati,
This is Suresh Working as a Test Engineer. i have mentioned Sandbox Testing as given below:
currently testing for Payment by Paypal in sandbox environment
for third party shopping cart.
After completion of payment process using a sandbox personal account, when redirection happens to our site , we get a INVALID TRANSACTION message. But redirection happens properly in case of buyers with no paypal account. The sandbox personal account set up has sufficient fund balance
in it. Please advise why we are getting a INVALID TRANSACTION message.
Thanks,
Suresh
bsuresh7282@gmail.com
Hi Sarika,
This is Suresh Working as a Test Engineer u told you are in Financial domain you have confusion. This is right way or not but Financial Domail always going forward, so you dont worry this is good right career path for you. Then world full of Stock markets and Banking sector and Finacial transaction is there always so its always going forward.
Thanks,
Suresh
bsuresh7282@gmail.com
Critically discuss how you might test the following components in a development effort:
1. Software Requirements
2. Software Design
3. Code
I’d this in my system integration and test class and let me know if anyone could help me out thanks!!
Develop a set of test cases that you feel will adequately test the following program:
The program reads three integer values. The three values are interpreted as representing the lengths of the sides of a triangle. The program prints a message that states whether the triangle is scalene, isosceles, or equilateral.
I’d this in my system integration and test class and let me know if anyone could help me out thanks!!
Give at least three examples in which black-box testing might give the impression that “everything is O.K.,” while white-box tests might uncover an error. Give at least three examples in which white-box testing might give the impression that “everything is O.K.,” while black-box tests might uncover an error. Justify your selections. Your answer is limited to one single spaced page. Provide your answer formatted in accordance with the Exam Question Template.
I’d this in my system integration and test class and let me know if anyone could help me out thanks!!
Critically discuss the following question “Will exhaustive testing (even if it is possible for very small programs) guarantee that the program is 100 percent correct?” Your answer is limited to one single spaced page. Provide your answer in formatted accordance with the Exam Question Template.
I’d this in my system integration and test class and let me know if anyone could help me out thanks!!
hi to everyone
i saw ur answers regarding testing tools i am appreciate a lot , can u help me out .
Right now i am in australia pursuing diploma in computer field but not related to PR so i am deciding to comeback to india (some family problem) and do some course in testing tools what u think , i have some knowledge about computers i have done Bsc (2005) after that i am not taken any interested in doing job in india wasting my precious time by going abroad. I am 29 now i am sorry what i have done. Can u please suggest me that its good to do testing tools on this age.But i know that its difficult for me to go form the scratch but i can do, if u suggest good reply for my future.
By reading all this u get the idea what guy i was,from the bottome of my heart i am very regret what i have done, Now i am realised that how important the career is please please suggest me what to do , i am interest in computers field.
Thanks for ur preciuse by reading this.
One important think my english also not so good .
sir,
im veena completed final b.tech of 2008 passed out and persuing course of software testing.
actually we have received to done the project on “cache online”for this we have to prepare
1.prepare test case design
2.test case execution
3.test log preparation
4.Defect tracking document
5.Final summary report
these are required…..
im having some doubts to do these so please clarify all these with ur Knowledge..thanking u…….veena
sir,
im veena completed final b.tech of 2008 passed out and persuing course of software testing.
actually we have received to done the project on “cache online”for this we have to prepare
1.prepare test case design
2.test case execution
3.test log preparation
4.Defect tracking document
5.Final summary report
these are required…..
Hi,
I want to know only one thing that is the answer which r posted on this website ,are the genuine one.I mean is there any way to cross check these answer.
can utellme difference between a checklist and test matrix
what is data and code coverage.can u explain in very simple way
can u send one template of test matrix and tracebility matrix
SQL,Oracle and Mysql basics for testers article (Doc file)
sir,
im veena completed final b.tech of 2008 passed out and persuing course of software testing.
actually we have received to done the project on “cache online”for this we have to prepare
1.prepare test case design
2.test case execution
3.test log preparation
4.Defect tracking document
5.Final summary report
these are required…..
Hi to all
do any body knows about the boundary testing and domain testing, if knows please specify his/her name with information, becaz i am writing one article on domain testing
hi,
right now i am working for a bpo… i just want to switch my career to software testing…i joined a software testing institute for that…i just want to know if this bpo tag will create a barrier to switch on to the testing field…..plz do help me with an answer
Hi,
For which company u working for ? and your experience ? Do you have domain knowledge & let me know in which domain u working , roles & responsibility.
i am doing my cstp course…..where ever i am applying for the post of software testing they are asking for experience….But im totally a fresher to this testing field….By that it means 1 wont get job anywhere as a tester…What shall do for this
Hello Sindu,
This is Mallikarjun working as a s/w test engg.well u hv taken gud decession.u go and join Mind Q institute which at SR Nagar, Hyd. and along with testing tools, u learn one language( C, C++ anything wat do u like) and one database(SQL Server, Oracle etc wat do u like). theses r enough to become gud test engg.
bye bye
Mallik
What is AB testing?
plz give me some detail..
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